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- From: septh@club-internet.fr (Stephan Schreiber)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Say *perhaps* to fat binaries (was: what the new amiga-os *must* have)
- Date: 10 Apr 1996 23:33:56 GMT
- Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe
- Message-ID: <4486.6675T7T2270@club-internet.fr>
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- Le 10-Avr-96 09:53:24, Marc Espie ecrivait a propos de Re: Say *perhaps* to
- fat binaries (was: what the new amiga-os *must* have):
- > In article <2867.6669T177T96@club-internet.fr>,
- > Stephan Schreiber <septh@club-internet.fr> wrote:
-
- >>On 03-Avr-96 23:17:01, Dr. Peter Kittel said about Re: Say *perhaps* to f
-
- >>> Those programmers are bright! You see, this exactly shows the difference
- >>> between a multitasking platform and a monotasking one. On a monotasking
- >>> one, you can get through with using Return for acknowleging dialog boxes.
- >>> On a multitasking system, this would be dangerous and fatal! Just imagine
- >>> that application being about to open that requester is running in the
- >>> background, and you are currently typing some text in another window.
- >>> You are just about to bang on the Return key. Exactly in this moment
- >>> that requester pops up, brings itself to the foreground and thus directs
- >>> inputs to itself. You can't react as fast and really press Return.
- >>> The requester assumes you really meant Return for the requester and it
- >>> happily accepts your "decision". But you did not decide, you just wanted
- >>> to type Return in some other text. And if that requester now asked for
- >>> example "Something not found, shall I format the drive?", then it goes
- >>> BANG.
-
- >>Well, IMHO this is true... but only in theory. In practice, it's nearly
- >>impossible for an unexpected requester to pop up "by surprise" just because
- >>requesters usually appear in response to a user action. So, if you've just
- >>been selecting a menu item or clicking on a gadget, you can't be
- >>simultaneoulsy typing some text in another application... Exec may be
- >>multatisking, but users are not.
-
- > Says you ! Usually happens all over the place for me... for instance, when
- > I'm bringing aminet archives back home, and go simultaneously getting the
- > multi-volume tar to my hard-disk, browsing through the result with browser,
- > installing cool stuff to test, listening to music, and formatting disks/clea
- > older versions out on the other drive.
-
- All this at once? It must be terribly sloooow... :-)
-
- >>Of course, there's always the possibilty for the requester to appear after
- >>some delay, but the case is quite rare.
-
- > Say, once every two hours on my machine ?
-
- You forgot the main point in Dr Kittel's article: are you simultaneously
- typing some text in a word processor or something?
-
- >>> No, Return or Esc or whatever comes to mind is not, repeat *NOT*, an
- >>> appropriate key mapping for answering requesters per default, on a
- >>> multitasking platform. The AmigaOS programmers did it right.
-
- >>Maybe a combination like right-Amiga-Return or left-Amiga-Esc is the soluti
- >>Nevertheless it looks much better than left-Amiga-C and left-Amiga-V.
-
- >>> When you obviously are only accustomed to monotasking environments,
- >>> please first learn a bit more about the circumstances to be considered
- >>> on a Real Multitasking Platform.
-
- >>As I said before: users are *NOT* multitasking. That should not be forgotte
- >>neither...
-
- > And you are definitely *WRONG*. Maybe you are *NOT* multitasking, but most
- > of us out there who have been playing with real computers like Unix networks
- > or Amigas, do know how to do several things at the same time (I'm currently
- > answering your message, wait for a www connexion to lysator, had my xbiff
- > just beeping around, compiling the latest release of lclint, thinking about
- > what I'm going to change in tracker next, and listening on one of my
- > favorite tunes---all that on a friend's 486 under linux :-) ).
-
- > [...]
-
- > Oh well, this guy is probably going to say I'm yet one other weirdo from
- > outer space, not a Real User (tm) as he sees them.
-
- No, no, no, you're a *real* user. Sorry I didn't realize everybody uses his
- Amiga as hardly as that.
-
- > Go and read the Amiga User Interface Style Guide. It might be that the only
- > thing the Amiga has for her is that she does not take users for nitwits,
- > in violent contrast to every other box in the market. Don't try to take that
- > away from her, please.
-
- No way. I love the Amiga too, you know...
-
- > --
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- > microsoft network is EXPLICITLY forbidden to redistribute this message.
- > `Moon purismu powa, make up.... Tsuki ni kawatte, oshiokiyo !'
- > Marc Espie (Marc.Espie@ens.fr)
-
- ^^^ C'est pas un peu con de s'engueuler en anglais ? :-)
-
- --
- Septh
-
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